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Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby ChesterCamp5x9.5x6 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:48 pm

I started thinking about DIY campers a year ago (Sept, 2018), and discovered tnttt a few months later. I started thinking about a 6x14, but I didn't want to pay for the gas to tow even a foamie. I recently settled on a 5 x 9.5 x 6 (inside dimensions), constructed as a foam on frame, but still trying to keep the weight reasonable. I started the build on Oct. 4th, 2019, and most might say I should have the trailer on hand before I start, but I haven't even ordered an aluminum Ultra-Tow 5 x 8 (182 lb.). I am calling it a foam on frame because it is a telescopic style, like some jewelry boxes, and I felt the structural rigidity of a frame was worth the cost of weighty wood. The lifting mechanism will be a single scissors jack in the center of the roof, to keep it simple, and I can lift the Top Box in two stages. The Top Box will be guided up and down with four corner vertical PVC pipe guides, one pipe (whole) mounter to wiggle a little, and a second larger fixed one (split it half lengthwise) to ride over it. I'm stretching the length to 9 1/2 feet long inside on an 8 foot trailer, with about 10 inches overhanging the back, and extended a similar amount in the front, using the space normally allotted to a tongue box, which I am giving up, in favor of more interior space. Nylon straps over the top, front and back, will secure the Top Box raised or lowered, supported inside with removable posts in the four corners, and I'm hoping to be able to line up the raised Top Box to use four corner bolts, as well, when raised. :thinking:
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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby rjgimp » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:14 am

Wow, that's an ambitious design! Welcome to the nuthouse. :beer: Of course, since you've been lurking around here for some time you are aware of our general desire for plenty of... :pictures: :pictures: :pictures:
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just as soon as the steering committee gets around to scheduling one!
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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby ChesterCamp5x9.5x6 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:27 pm

Well thanks Rob. I have posted several build pictures in the gallery. I think I want to assemble the frame together temporarily, to test the fit, guide alignment, and the lift. Then take it apart to add the foam. I think some areas of the roof, for instance, will get fiberglass insulation batt, in the odd place.
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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby lee senn » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:30 pm

Off to a good start , looking forward to following your build. Lee and Norma
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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby ChesterCamp5x9.5x6 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:59 am

Well, I'm a month and a day into my build, and I just completed a successful lift test of the scissors jack, the inner (Bottom) box, the outer (Top) box, and the Schedule 40 PVC guide system. I did it without building the door or rear wall for the Top Box, by temporarily making an 'X' brace at the back end. I decided to use PVC Pipes for the supports at each corner. One set of four is 34" long, so at Full Lift, the inside height is 72+ inches, and 17" supports will make 55+ inches ceiling height, at the First Stage lift. I expect this mid-point height will be handy on cold nights, like a conventional teardrop. In addition to the support pipes, I'm using 6 inch carriage bolts at the travel height, mid-points, and full lift spots. The carriage bolts will be around the perimeter, with torque washers on the inside, and flat washers on the outside. I will build mounting points, and drill more holes for four more carriage bolts- (the two mid-points on the long walls, the mid-point of the front wall, and at the rear door, once I build the rear door and rear wall). Then I need to disassemble the outside Top Box panels so they can get XPS foam insulation, as well as the roof, and Bottom Box. 11/32" plywood will be the ceiling, and 15/32" plywood will be the floor, on top of 1 1/2" XPS, likely framed with 2x3 floor sills. I could use some advice for the floor. There's about 10 inches overhang on the rear, past the trailer frame. I just posted a bunch of pictures in my gallery. I like to caption them right on the picture, rather than use the description form provided.
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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby ChesterCamp5x9.5x6 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:26 am

I ordered an Ultra-Tow 5x8 Alum trailer from Northern tool, thru ebay, on November 14th. I read several posts on the subject of Trailer Kit Deliveries, and decided that a Lift-Gate was not necessary, since the shipment was in 3 boxes, 268 lb, (186 lb trailer weight), and some posts implied that it would be easily managed without the $85 Lift-Gate service, so I declined it, with the order. Two days ago, on Nov 21st, I got an email, that it would be delivered that day, November 21st, but it was not out for delivery yet. I decided to call YRC Freight, and specify, and pay for Lift-Gate service. The YRC clerk checked to see if my longest 8 foot package would make lift-gate service ineligible. She was not sure if the cut-off was 8 feet, or 9 feet. Turned out to be 8 feet, so I could not use it. Fine, I had not paid for it anyway. The freight drivers are not required to help unload, so I would need to find a helper, because it is not a one man job. I scheduled the Delivery for this coming Tuesday, Nov 26, between 10 am and 2 pm. My neighbor ultimately declined to help, so I posted a gig on craigslist for $5, and found someone within a half hour, and I offered $80 for completion of the job only. If he gets bored or called away early, he gets zero. I will set my camera on time-lapse on Tuesday, and post delivery pictures that day.
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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby RJ Howell » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:09 pm

I would ask that you post those pictures as you explain what you're doing. This is a unique lift build that a few have attempted. I'd love to 'fully' understand what you're doing. You can easily insert a gallery picture in your text and show us (well me..) what and explain how.

I'm almost ready to start my 'next' build and also will do a lifted roof. I'm inclined to just pop the roof vs. lift walls and all.. Again, would love to really get a good idea of what you're doing. :twisted:
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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby tony.latham » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:21 pm

I would ask that you post those pictures as you explain what you're doing. This is a unique lift build...


I'll second that motion.

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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby ChesterCamp5x9.5x6 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:13 pm

I have posted 44 pictures previously in my gallery, but I pick a few and post them here. I think the best term for it is foam on frame, which I have been using. I did not have the courage to go foam only, to save every bit of weight. I elected to make a wood frame, and I hope I have not used too much wood. I would be happy with 1200 lbs, as a 5 wide by 9.5 long by 6 ft high (all dimensions inside), on a 5x8 alum trailer. I feel like a pioneer, because I can only cite four examples- 1) the European DIY Wooden Widget Plans- which is a summer only tent alternative. 2) the Hi-Lo, which is out of business, then resurrected, and 3) the Canadian TNTTTer who built a 5x10 Foamie with air compressor lifting mechanism, and took his family across Canada. 4) The Australian sea-green colored build, which might be most similar to mine.

I decided that a foam only roof and 4 walls lift was too risky as my first build, so I am doing a foam on frame design. I was originally counting the weight of every piece, but I plan to tow it with a Prius (that is another story). I am mainly using 1x3 furring strips, and 2x2s. I have 2x4s on the roof because I need roof strength to be able to lift the 4 walls. I considered a linear actuator in each corner, but between the $400+ cost, and required 12v power (or I am stuck). I decided on a KISS 2.5 ton, single lift point, scissors jack. I believe in insulation, so I am putting 2.5 inches in the lower box, 3 inches in the upper wall, 3.5-4 inches in the roof, and probably 1.5 inches in the floor. I have maxed out the width at 62 inches wide for the lower box, just inside the fenders, and added 18 inches past the trailer frame, eliminating space for a traditional tongue box. I am crazy enough to heat it with an ammo can pellet stove, thru a proper stove jack, and vented with a titanium chimney. I think I will just paint the inside foam walls with enough coats of TB2 to harden them, and use Thompsons Water Seal Clear on the exposed pine. I wish I could use fiberglass cloth with Glidden Gripper, for instance, for the exterior, but I found no one who has done that. I guess choice numbers 2 and 3 for the exterior, would be 2) nylon screen and Glidden Gripper, or 3) drop cloth or bed sheet with GG.

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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby ChesterCamp5x9.5x6 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:20 pm

Sorry. This my first time posting within a Post. They all look to be the same image, but it you click on each code line, instead of the image, each picture displays properly.
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Re: Newbie from RI, building for three weeks.

Postby ChesterCamp5x9.5x6 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:18 am

I took delivery of the Ultra-Tow Trailer Kit Tues, Nov 26th. YRC said I could not order the lift-gate service for $85 because one of my boxes was 8 ft long. Since I was not sure what to expect, I hired a helper, who waited during the 10am to 2 pm window, The truck arrived at 3:20 pm, and the dispatcher apologized because I was the next town over, and should have been first. If you can manage to unload a 104 lb box down to the ground, alone or together, no lift-gate is necessary, but the driver is not required to help.

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