What are ya'll using for heat?

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Re: What are ya'll using for heat?

Postby NevadaBlue » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:08 pm

bobhenry wrote:Back to basics......



First, I want to thank you for all the great input you have had and have now on this forum. I just finished reading the Caboose thread, an epic. You are a tough dude for sure. Thank you again.

So, with your pic in mind, this would work. The Samovar... they are thin stainless steel, available from Amazon among other places for 50 to 100 bucks. They generally heat a gallon of water. So, a small wood fired stove, WITH water heater (which I am sure will moderate the affects of the fire on the whole contraption. I’m tempted to buy one for my little trailer I am building. They are about 10” in diameter, so they could be easily installed in a box like you showed, or in my case, sit on top of a shelf that is in the plan for my one-man rig.

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Re: What are ya'll using for heat?

Postby bobhenry » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:14 am

I am sure you noticed the entire unit is simply clamped in place. This was done for quick ejection if needed. The clamp on neich was lined with galvanized roofing material to separate combustable surfaces from the direct radiant heat and to help diffuse it as well. I would strongly suggest this as a mounting as it avoided cutting a chimney exit into the roof of the teardrop. I was amazed that this little 14" stove heated the unit in minutes with an outside temp in the teen's and a rather biting wind. I used salesman sample double sash aluminum storm windows in this build. This allowed the sashes to be quickly and easily removed and stored away after arrival. This feature allowed the neich to be temporarily added to the trailer.
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Re: What are ya'll using for heat?

Postby H.A. » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:41 pm

I been an Espar user for decades. Models D1L and X-2. They are great heaters, But can be fussy at high altitude. I still have several NOS from 1980s in the shed... The Chinese have basically copied them and are insanely cheap nowdays.
Presently my teardrop uses no heat. My 19' Airstream I use a Sigmar 100. Completely silent and no electric requirement.
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Re: What are ya'll using for heat?

Postby kmack67.km » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:05 pm

Interesting discussion. I am surprised that a super small pellet stove isn't already available for small trailers. I did a search but the smallest I found was a wood stove that was about a foot in each dimension. The unfortunate news about the latter is that the clearance distance around it meant that you need about 9 sq-ft of floor space to use it.

Not sure how much heat is needed but I have successfully taken the worst of the frost out of the air in tents by burning a couple of UCO candle lanterns. That may be enough for a small, well insulated teardrop.

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Re: What are ya'll using for heat?

Postby Tyrtill » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:18 pm

H.A. wrote:My 19' Airstream I use a Sigmar 100. Completely silent and no electric requirement.

Thanks for posting this. I looked them up and they're really simple. I probably couldn't use one in my current build but I'll keep it in mind in the future.
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Re: What are ya'll using for heat?

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Re: What are ya'll using for heat?

Postby Squigie » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:54 pm

There's some irony in this thread being revived yesterday. I had to use the RV furnace yesterday. I should have taken a picture. I wish I had.

Yesterday morning, I awoke about 2 hours early to a very cold house.
Thermostat was working and showed that it was heating. The furnace blower motor could be heard running.
Perhaps there was a power outage and the furnace is trying to catch back up now?
No. No signs of a power failure elsewhere in the house.

I went down to the furnace and saw the blinking light of doom. "Great, we've got another igniter or flame sensor failure. Six flashes, here we go..." methinks.

Blink-blink-blink-blink. Blink-blink-blink-blink.

Four. Where's that chart? What does four mean?
(Of course, the fault chart is upside down and hidden around a corner inside the furnace cabinet.)
"OPEN ..." -scrub some dust off the sticker- "... LIMIT SWITCH ... " -contort body in terrible ways, while pushing wiring out of the way to read more- "... OR IMPROPER ... VOLTAGE."

Okay... A transformer failure is very unlikely, and I would have to replace the whole control board for a voltage regulator failure. So, ...where are the limit switches?

And thus began about 5 hours of chasing my tail, as all parts were testing good, but the error code was different every time I reapplied power to the furnace.

In the mean time, the house was about to drop into the 50s (F). For humans, that's annoying. But there was a more pressing issue. My wife has a bearded dragon that is only kept warm with heat lamps and ambient temperature in the house. We have no 'heat stones' or other heaters for the prickly reptile. That lizard needs 60+ F, and 65 F is better for a 'low' temperature. Lucky the lizard needed heat.

I knew my electric garage heaters wouldn't be able to heat the open space in the house while I was occasionally cycling the furnace and redistributing the warmer air throughout the house.
But... But! Yea, I know what might work.

I dug the RV furnace out of its box, shoved the rear end (intake/exhaust) through the cat door that leads outside, slipped on the exhaust pipe that I don't intend to use (I have two), propped the front up, hooked up the propane (and leak-checked), hooked the power wires up to a 12V power supply from my parts bin, alligator-clipped the thermostat wires together (so I could cycle the furnace without twisting and untwisting wires), and let 'er eat.

It did pretty well. By the time I got the house furnace working well enough to feel that I could walk away from it, at least for an hour or two, the little RV furnace had gotten us back to about 67 F, and it was heating about 1,800 square feet.

Unfortunately, the house furnace is still questionable. I can touch almost any wire inside that cabinet and cause a fault that shuts it down. There seems to be a major issue with loose connectors, or actual wire breakage inside the insulation (my brother had that happen). It's 30+ years old and would certainly be replaced by the average home owner. But about 50% of its parts are also new, and I know this dumb furnace pretty well at this point. I'm still debating whether or not to replace the whole wire harness, wire by wire or pigtail by pigtail. (Replacement harnesses are not available for this furnace.)
Whatever I do, I'm going to nurse it along as long as I can - hopefully until spring - so I don't have to worry about working in short windows of opportunity.
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Re: What are ya'll using for heat?

Postby tony.latham » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:28 pm

I dug the RV furnace out of its box, shoved the rear end (intake/exhaust) through the cat door...

I like your McGiver thinkiing.

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